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Friday, February 20, 2026

Saturn,Mars , the 3rd and 8th and longevity puzzle

 सहजाधीश भूपुत्रौ द्वौ रन्ध्रेशशनैश्चरौ ।

अस्तगौ पापदृग्युक्तौ स्वल्पमायुः प्रयच्छतः ॥ 63


एवं तृतीयनाथेन रन्ध्रेशस्योक्तवत् सदा ॥ 64

 

Translation & Core Meaning

  • The 3rd lord (Tṛtīyeśa) with Mars, and the 8th lord (Aṣṭameśa) with Saturn, are the key pairs for judging longevity.
  • If both pairs are afflicted by malefic aspects and also combust (Asta), the native will have a short life.
  • If one pair is combust and the other afflicted, the result is a medium or short life.
  • If both pairs are strong, unafflicted, and well placed, the native enjoys a long life.
  • The astrologer should always judge these pairs together, inferring the gradation of lifespan from their relative strength.

 

Simplified Rules

  1. Afflicted + Combust (both pairs) → Short life.
  2. One combust + one afflicted → Medium/short life.
  3. Both strong, benefic influence → Long life.

 

Additional Refinements

  • Exaltation / Benefic Association:
    • If the 3rd lord or Mars is exalted or joined benefics → longevity increases.
    • The same applies to the 8th lord or Saturn.
  • House Placement of Lagnesha or 3rd lord:
    • In Kendra (1,4,7,10) → Long life.
    • In Panaphara (2,5,8,11) → Medium life.
    • In Apoklima (3,6,9,12) → Short life.
  • Pairing Principle:
    • Judge the 3rd lord + Mars together.
    • Judge the 8th lord + Saturn together.
    • Compare their strength, affliction, and combustion.

 

Simplified Essence

  • Mars + 3rd lord → vitality and secondary longevity.
  • Saturn + 8th lord → endurance and primary longevity.
  • Their combined condition decides whether life is short, medium, or long.

 

In short:

  • Strong benefic pairs → long life.
  • Mixed (one weak, one afflicted) → medium life.
  • Both weak/afflicted/combust → short life.

 

 

Longevity from 3rd & 8th Lords with Mars & Saturn

Planetary Pair

Sanskrit Verse Reference

Condition

Result

3rd lord (Tṛtīyeśa) + Mars (Maṅgala)

सहजाधीश भूपुत्रौ द्वौ… (63)

Both afflicted by malefic aspects and combust (Asta)

Short life (स्वल्पमायुः)

8th lord (Aṣṭameśa) + Saturn (Śani)

रन्ध्रेशशनैश्चरौ… (63)

Both afflicted + combust

Short life

Either pair: one combusts, the other is afflicted

अस्तगौ पापदृग्युक्तौ… (63)

Mixed condition

Medium/short life (अल्पायु)

Both pairs are strong, unafflicted, and well placed

बलवान्… दीर्घायु (63)

Strength + benefic association

Long life (दीर्घायु)

Judged together

एवं तृतीयनाथेन… (64)

Always assess both pairs jointly

Longevity gradation inferred


Additional Refinements

Factor

Rule

Result

Exaltation / Benefic Association

If the 3rd lord or Mars, or the 8th lord or Saturn, are exalted or joined with benefics

Longevity increases

House Placement of Lagnesha / 3rd lord

In Kendra (1,4,7,10)

Long life

In Panaphara (2,5,8,11)

Medium life

In Apoklima (3,6,9,12)

Short life

 

Simplified Essence

  • Mars + 3rd lord → vitality and secondary longevity.
  • Saturn + 8th lord → endurance and primary longevity.
  • Their combined condition (afflicted, combust, or strong) decides whether life is short, medium, or long.